the sox will be champs
the playoffs haven't even begun, and already two teams have met gruesome fates --- epic choke jobs. the field is now set, and the poll is up to determine which team gets the honor of our official endorsement. . . . . in a shocking development, the rockies have a massive early lead in the voting. who saw that coming? last night's memorable win was the second walkoff 9-8 victory in colorado's incredible 14-1 sprint to the finish; back on september 18 they trailed 8-7 vs the dodgers heading into the 9th and won on a 2-out, 2-run dinger by todd helton, completing a doubleheader sweep. when this rally began, the rocks were in 4th place in the nl west and 4th in the wild-card chase; they scored 102 runs in the 15 games (including that one the holliday didn't score in the 13th last night), or just shy of 7 per game, while allowing just 51, or about 3.5 per game.
so let's run a little contest: name the 4 lds winners, the 2 lcs winners, and the world series winner; state the score in games of each series. my picks as follows:
cubs v diamondbacks
very interesting matchup. arizona has the best starting pitcher in the series and the lock-downest bullpen on the nl side of the bracket; the cubs have the better manager and by far the more potent lineup. i figure b webb is good for at least one win, and the dbacks' bullpen is probably good for another; and i can easily imagine ryan dempster blowing a late lead. so it's very tempting to pick arizona . . . . but i'm gonna go with the cubs, because their bats give them a greater margin for error. they can overcome a bad pitching performance or a blown save and still win the game; i don't think that the dbacks can. if they don't get great pitching on a given day, they are hosed --- with their offense (14th in the league in runs scored) they aren't going to win many 5-4 or 6-5 games this month. plus, there's a glaring gap here in run differential --- cubs + 62, dbacks -20. i'll take the cubs in 5 games.
rockies v phils
last night's game may have just been a warmup; 9-8 could end up looking like a pitcher's duel in this series. the phils led the league in scoring, and the rockies finished 2d; they were 13th and 8th, respectively, in era. the phils have the best starting pitcher (hamels) in this series (and he'll be available twice), plus better overall rotation depth; the rockies have jeff francis (an extremely underrated pitcher) and the better bullpen. neither manager strikes me as particularly shrewd. of all the outstanding young players who will be on display in this series, troy tulowitzki impresses me the most. he wears #2 because he grew up idolizing jeter, and he reminds me of jeter --- the guy's a presence, and he won't back down. on account of that, and the phils' extremely untrustworthy bullpen, i'm taking the rockies in 4.
yankees v indians
i know so little about the american league [UPDATE --- including what the matchups are] . . . . i do know that these american league teams are embarassingly better than their nl counterparts. you've probably realized by now that not a single one of the national league playoff teams would have qualified for the playoffs in the al --- the nl's best team (arizona, with 90 wins) would have finished 4 games back of the worst american-league qualifier. . . . . i'll take the yanks in this series because a) they had a run differential of nearly +200, and b) the indians have joe borowski closing out their games. i hate to diss my countryman and (no doubt) very distant cousin --- he's got the right demeanor to close out games, but he just doesn't have the stuff. cc and fausto are great equalizers and could singlehandedly win the series for cleveland. i'm still taking the yanks in 4.
red sox v angels
the red sox' run differential was even better than the yankees', at +210. they have a deeper pitching staff than the angels, as well as the single best starting pitcher in the series (beckett). it's been shown that power-hitting teams like the sox have a bit of an edge in october over slap-n-run teams like the angels; whether that will manifest in this particular 5-game series, i don't really know. but i'll pretend that i do: sox in 3.
beyond the first round, i'll take the cubs over the rockies in 5, and the sox over the yankees in 6, and the sox over the cubs in 5, with the former cursee denying the reigning one. fox will be happy w/ the ratings, anyway. . . . . . hope all the games are as interesting as last night's was. but no need for them to run 13 innings . . . . .
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Big Problem
by Quel on Oct 2, 2007 9:38 AM EDT 0 recs
My Predictions
I'll take the D-Backs in 4! I see Webb winning two on his own and Demster losing one on his own. I like the D-Backs pitching a lot better and that is what matter is October.
Rockies/Phils
Phils in 5. Most interesting series...no pitching besides Hamels in the whole thing. I like Philly's offense a lot better, but the big MO is on the Rockies side...thats what makes it go 5.
Phils/DBacks
Philly in 6. I see webb and hamels canceling each other out, both winning 2 games. The Phillys are the only team that can cancel out a pitching staff and besides Webb, I dont see anyone holding down Utley/Rollins(08 MVP)/Howard/Rowand. Phils hold on in some high scoring affairs.
Yanks/Indians
Yanks in 5... CC wins 1 and Carmona ends 1. Yanks get the advantage in the pen and in the offense.
Halos/BoSox
I like this series...probably the toughest to call...I'll take halos in 5. and that is just because I hate Schilling and dont want to hear him talk anymore! Pretty evenly matched series in my mind.
Yanks/Halos
Yanks in 7...Just dont see the Halos solving A-rod and Jeter.
WORLD SERIES
Yanks in 6 over Philly.
Philly can hit, but Yanks only team that can match that. Phils will win 1 games with Hamels and one with the Off. alone...other than that Yanks dominate the games Hamels doesnt throw. God it hurts to say the Yanks are going to win.
by BigLance29 on
Oct 2, 2007 11:41 AM EDT
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Now for predictions I don't want to get into specific scores but I predict:
Zona in 4 over the Cubs, I think if Webb can start twice Zona has it in the bag, they also have homefield advantage to win the first two before heading to Wrigley.
Rox in 3, they are hot and while the Phils are too I just feel a sweep is coming.
Indians in 3 I think the Yanks will falter, a young rotation, an old Clemens and an anti October ARod, I fully expect a very early exit.
Angels in 5, this is the series that will be most exciting to me, Weaver and Dice K while both are really still new pitchers to MLB it will be fun to watch em.
Rox in 6 over Zona momentum will be lost at first but they get 3 at home in the middle of a 7 game series, they are great offensively at home, as long as they can get one road win I think the Rox have it.
Angels over Indians in 7, another exciting nail bitter, but who knows like lboros I know so little about the AL.
Rox over Angels in 5, again they have 3 at home in the middle of this series.
by StLHugo on Oct 2, 2007 9:54 AM EDT 0 recs
Barrett actually tagged Holliday
by Titus Pullo on
Oct 2, 2007 9:56 AM EDT
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After
by StLHugo on
Oct 2, 2007 9:58 AM EDT
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But Holliday made zero effort to touch the plate,
by MdRedbirdFreak on
Oct 2, 2007 10:02 AM EDT
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The fact that Holliday could have touched the
by houstoncardinal on
Oct 2, 2007 10:10 AM EDT
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I want to know
by MdRedbirdFreak on
Oct 2, 2007 10:13 AM EDT
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Replay
by StLHugo on
Oct 2, 2007 10:15 AM EDT
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They missed the HR
by silent_bob on
Oct 2, 2007 11:25 AM EDT
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From "Umpiring 101"...
The TV angles were lousy on that play... the cameras used by TBS both had the play going away from the lens. The umpire, however, had the play coming toward him! I dunno if Holliday touched the plate or not from those replays; but I'm sure Timmy Mac did!
Or, he could have been thinking, "Jayzus, I've been out here for 13 freakin' innings already... If I call this guy out, who knows how long it'll take these donkeys to finish the game... Hell with it, he's safe!" Nahhhhh.... (grin)
by The Ol Goaler on
Oct 2, 2007 12:24 PM EDT
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hey goaler
as far as whether holliday could have went back and touched, i dont think so, he looked out of it to me, i mean did you see the place on his chin?
by bigcardsfan5 on
Oct 2, 2007 1:25 PM EDT
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Disagree
Cubs over Diamondbacks
Indians over Yanks (in 4)
Rox over Angels (in 3)
Phils over Cubs (in 5)
Indians over Rox in a 7-game classic
Indians over Phils (in 6)
by Titus Pullo on Oct 2, 2007 9:54 AM EDT 0 recs
huh?
by tdawg on
Oct 2, 2007 9:59 AM EDT
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what do I know?
Cubs in 4
Phils in 5
Yanks in 3
Angels in 5
Cubs in 6 (as much as I hate to write that . . .)
Yanks in 7
Yanks over the Cubs in 5 (in a Series that I can hardly bear to watch)
by tdawg on Oct 2, 2007 9:57 AM EDT 0 recs
Who Picked the Yankess?!!
We should know if we have Yankees fans among us.
by Titus Pullo on Oct 2, 2007 9:58 AM EDT 0 recs
'Twas I...
The Cubs eat poop.
by bukowski on
Oct 2, 2007 10:31 AM EDT
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I choose the Phillies, but...
by JMedwick on
Oct 2, 2007 10:45 AM EDT
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I did
by madding on
Oct 2, 2007 8:53 PM EDT
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Predix
Rox over Phils
Tribe over Yank-offs
Sox over Angels
Rox over Cubs
Sox over Tribe
Sox over Rox
And you have no idea how much it pains me to see the Rouge Hose go there again.
I was in Boston over the weekend and I had to watch all the dancing on the field in Fenway Friday night. Mark my words, if the Sox keep that crap going through the playoffs they will complete the process of making themselves just as hated as the Yankees.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Oct 2, 2007 10:02 AM EDT 0 recs
...ohhhh??
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Please not the Sox
by jroman on Oct 2, 2007 10:06 AM EDT 0 recs
Agreed. I'm trying to put my
Or maybe the self-absorption, I'm not sure. And I don't know if its the team or the fans that set me off either. I just know I get a strong negative visceral reaction to them.
by MdRedbirdFreak on
Oct 2, 2007 10:09 AM EDT
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Ditto
by Yellow Dog on
Oct 2, 2007 11:34 AM EDT
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....but you said....
by cardschinmusic on
Oct 3, 2007 4:19 AM EDT
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the amazing kreskin
rox over phils
cubs over dbacks
cubs over rox
indians over yanks
sox over angels
sox over indians
cubs over sox. there, i said it.
by erik on Oct 2, 2007 10:07 AM EDT 0 recs
sorry, forgot
cubs over dbacks in 5
indians over yanks in 4
sox over angels in 3
sox over indians in 6
cubs over sox in 7
by erik on
Oct 2, 2007 10:25 AM EDT
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and you call yourself a cardinal fan
(i am actually only kidding, and admire your courage... sort of)
by RosevilleRedbird on
Oct 2, 2007 1:09 PM EDT
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Predictions
Cubs in 4
Yanks in 4
Angels in 5
Cubs in 6 (my heart hurts)
Angels in 6
Angels in 6
I really think the winner of that Sox/LA series goes to the World Series, and no National League team is going to win the World Series... but then they said that last, year, too.
by itsalemmon1019 on Oct 2, 2007 10:08 AM EDT 0 recs
I know Carp will be good in game 1
go rockies or philles.....
by MississippiCardMan on Oct 2, 2007 10:08 AM EDT 0 recs
Rockies pitching
Rockies' OPS+ is 103
Rockies' ERA+ is 110
by Zubin on Oct 2, 2007 10:13 AM EDT 0 recs
I think I'm going to have to
Cubs in 4
Rockies in 5
Sox in 4
Yanks in 4
Cubs over Rockies in 6
Sox over Yanks in 6
Sox over Cubs in 6
But I'd really like to see Ubaldo Jimenez and Franklin Morales pitching deep into October.
by houstoncardinal on Oct 2, 2007 10:13 AM EDT 0 recs
Mediocore NL
For example, best team had 90 wins (d-backs), worst had 68 (pirates). When was the last time there was only a separation of 22 wins between the best and worst team in the league? Or for playoff teams, 90 for dbacks and 85 for the Cubs, 5 games. Or possibly the win average of the playoff teams.
Basically, is there any good metric to describe it?
by Quel on Oct 2, 2007 10:14 AM EDT 0 recs
Predictions
Anyways here we go:
NLDS:
Phillies over Rockies in 5 games
Cubs over D-Backs in 4 games
ALDS:
Red Soxs over Angels in 4 games
Indians over Yankees in 5 games
NLCS:
Cubs over Phillies in 6 games
ALCS:
Indians over Red Soxs in 6 games
World Series:
Indians over Cubs in 5 games
by JMedwick on Oct 2, 2007 10:16 AM EDT 0 recs
My Guess
Rox over Phils
Yanks over Indians
Angels over BoSox
Cubs over Rox
Yanks over Angels
Yanks over Cubs
by sdelek on Oct 2, 2007 10:16 AM EDT 0 recs
Viva El Predicciones
Cubs over DBacks in 4
Rockies over Phillies in 5
NLCS:
Cubs over Rockies in 6 (yuck)
ALDS:
Angels over Red Sox in 5
Indians over Yankees in 4
ALCS:
Indians over Angels in 7
World Series:
Indians sweep
by lightbulb on Oct 2, 2007 10:26 AM EDT 0 recs
Throw the stats out the window...
Okay the Cubs will probably squeak by the DBacks.
And the Rockies will take care of Philly with ease.
The Indians will hammer the Yanks.
And the Angels will take care of Boston.
The Rockies with their super momentum will sweep the Cubs.
And the Indians will bring the rain on the Angels.
Then finally the Indians will come up victorious in a hard fought Fall classic that will require all 7 games over the Rockies.
by ArachNerd on Oct 2, 2007 10:31 AM EDT 0 recs
Joe Bo
by raisin on Oct 2, 2007 10:36 AM EDT 0 recs
Let's See...
Philly takes Rox in 5
Yanks beat The Tribe in 5
Red Hose crush Angels in 3
Philly knocks out D-Backs in 6
Red Hose sneak past Yanks in 7
Red Hose kill Philly in 5
Different route than LB, but same result. And I should say, once the Cubs are blessedly out, I really couldn't care less who wins it all. If it comes down to Cubs vs Tribe or Angels or Yanks or Red Hose, sorry, but I will use all the Jedi mind tricks at my disposal to ensure an AL victory. Other than that, good luck to all participants.
by rockin redbird on Oct 2, 2007 10:42 AM EDT 0 recs
Who Knows? Here goes...
Rockies def. Phillies in 4 games
Cubs def. D-Backs in 5 games
ALDS:
Red Soxs def. Angels in 5 games
Indians def. Yankees in 5 games
NLCS:
Rockies def. Cubs in 6 games
ALCS:
Indians def. Red Soxs in 6 games
World Series:
Indians def. Rockies in 7 games
by AustinBOB on Oct 2, 2007 10:43 AM EDT 0 recs
Here we go...
Yankees over Indians in five
Red Sox over Angels in four
(ALCS) Yankees over Red Sox in six
National League
Arizona over Cubs in five
Phils over Rockies in five
(NLCS) Arizona over Phillies in seven
And the winner of the world series is...
The Yankees win in six over the D-Backs
This is way better than March Madness!
by cardzfan24 on Oct 2, 2007 10:45 AM EDT 0 recs
...well..
by cardschinmusic on
Oct 3, 2007 6:05 AM EDT
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A-rod
Hey A-rod! If you come to St. Louis we will love you, and never* boo you, and you can hit behind the best hitter in the game!
Just the thought of that kind of protection behind Pujols... wow
*as soon as the newness of Busch III wears off and the true baseball fans return
by BigMOman on Oct 2, 2007 10:46 AM EDT 0 recs
Predictions
Rockies over Phills in 4
Indians over Yanks in 4
Red Sox over Angels in 4
Rockies over D-Backs in 6
Indians over Red Sox in 7
Indians over Rockies in 6.
by WiscCard on Oct 2, 2007 10:51 AM EDT 0 recs
Well, here goes
Rox in 5, absolute shoot outs.
Angels in 4, Dice-K continues to struggle.
Indians in 5, Yankees come close but not seeing Sabathia in 4 years hurts them.
Rox over DBacks in 6.
Indians over Angels in 5.
Indians over DBacks in 6.
Indians break curse. Giants and Cubs weep.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 2, 2007 10:54 AM EDT 0 recs
How about...
Phils over CO in 4
Yanks over Tribe in 5
Angels surprise Boston in 4
Phils over Cubs in 7
Yankees beat the Angels in 6
And what the heck, Phightins win it all over the Yanks in 7.
Parade down Broad Street shocking for the absence of even a single E-A-G-L-E-S cheer, although a scattering of boo's is heard when Pat Burrell doesn't wave with appropriate gusto.
by Tudor 85 on Oct 2, 2007 10:59 AM EDT 0 recs
Absolutely wrong predictions
Phillies over Rox in 3 (I'm going with the "series which should be great usually fizzle out" idea)
D-Backs over Cubs in 4
Indians over Yankees in 5
Angels over Red Sox in 4
D-Backs over Phillies in 5
Angels over Indians in 7
D-Backs over Angels in 6
Actually, I'm hoping I'm wrong -- I'm kind of rooting for the Indians (even with all the attendant mascot issues that will be raised)
by nybirdgirl on Oct 2, 2007 11:05 AM EDT 0 recs
Playoff prediction
Rockies def. Phillies in 4 games
D-Backs def. Cubs in 4 games
ALDS:
Red Sox def. Angels in 5 games
Yankees def. Indians in 5 games
NLCS:
D-Backs def. Rockies in 6 games
ALCS:
Yankees def. Red Sox in 7 games
World Series:
Yankees def. D-Backs in 7 games
by jomfa on Oct 2, 2007 11:12 AM EDT 0 recs
i hope i'm wrong about the cubs
indians over yanks in 5
sox over angels in 4
NLDS
baby bears over baby-backs in 5
phils over rox in 5
LCS
indians over sox in 6
cubs over phils in 7
WS
indians over cubs in 7
as for the cubs, the bigger the build-up, the more satisfying the let-down will be. let's see if d-lee can be the new bill buckner. or if dempster can be the next mitch williams.
by _pistol_ on Oct 2, 2007 11:20 AM EDT 0 recs
Tourney:
Phillies over Rockies in five
Cubs over D-Backs in four
ALDS:
Indians over Yankees in five
Red Sox over Angels in three
NLCS:
Phillies over Cubs in seven
ALCS:
Indians over Red Sox in six
Series:
Indians over the Phils in five for the title.
by Alxfritz on Oct 2, 2007 11:20 AM EDT 0 recs
It's a crapshoot...
Phillies over Rockies in 4
Cubs over D-Backs in 3
ALDS:
Indians over Yankees in 4 (Fox execs cry)
Angels over Red Sox in 5 (Fox execs sob)
NLCS:
Phillies over Cubs in 6 (Fox execs lie on floor wailing)
ALCS:
Indians over Angels in 5
Series:
Indians over Phillies in 7 (even fewer people care than last years Cards-Tigers matchup)
by Yellow Dog on Oct 2, 2007 11:40 AM EDT 0 recs
Going out on a limb here...
Phillies over the Rox in 4
Sox over the Angels in 5
Yankees over the Tribe 4
Phillies over the D-Backs 6
Yankees over the Sox: 6
Yankees over the Phillies: 5
by Brock20 on Oct 2, 2007 11:41 AM EDT 0 recs
Question:
I'm too lazy to look it up.
by silent_bob on Oct 2, 2007 11:44 AM EDT 0 recs
the Mets
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Oct 2, 2007 11:49 AM EDT
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Usually bad at this...
NLDS:
Flubs over Snakes in 5
Rox over Philly in 4
ALDS:
Sox sweep Halos in 3
Yanks over Tribe in 5
NLCS:
Cubbies over Rox in 6
ALCS:
Yanks over Sox in 7
WS:
Cubs in 7. Here endeth the curse.
Actually, I'll be rooting for the Rockies, but as others have mentioned - I've had a nagging feeling about the Cubbies since Spring Training.
by SmashedAtoms on Oct 2, 2007 11:58 AM EDT 0 recs
picks
Angels over Sox
Cubs beat 'Backs
Yanks by Injuns waxed
Tribe gives Halos shakes
Small Bears maul Snakes
When winter's cold is great
Native Americans will celebrate
(like it's 1948)
by templetown on Oct 2, 2007 12:05 PM EDT 0 recs
Cardinals and Eckstein
For those not worn out of the redbirds, the Post-Dispatch mentioned we are going after Springer and expressed interest in Eckstein (link). Oh yeah - TLR is saying nothing - big whoop.
I'm hoping Eckstein talk is simply PR to make it look like we didn't simply trash him. He's a great guy, but we need better defense from that position considering his minor offensive contributions.
by enoscountry on Oct 2, 2007 12:14 PM EDT 0 recs
Ugh - this disgusts me to write, but
Phillies over Rockies in 4
Cubs over Diamondbacks in 3
Cubs over Phillies in 5
Yankees over Indians in 4
Angels over Red Sox in 5
Yankees over Angels in 6
And in a series that is a dream for TV ratings and a nightmare for me to have to choose someone to root for,
Yankees over Cubs in 5.
Please don't let the Cubs win the World Series, God.
by Zack Morris on Oct 2, 2007 12:26 PM EDT 0 recs
My predictions
DBacks over Cubs in 5
Rockies over Phillies in 4
ALDS:
Red Sox over Angels in 5
Indians over Yankees in 4
NLCS:
Rockies over DBacks in 5
ALCS:
Indians over Red Sox in 7
World Series:
Indians Over Rockies in 5
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Oct 2, 2007 12:28 PM EDT 0 recs
Pix/Picks/Pyxx
OK, here goes:
Rockies/Phils: Rockies in 4
Cubs/DBacks: Cubs in 4
Yanks/Indians: Yanks in 5
Sox/'gels: Sox in 4
Rox/Cubs: Rox in 6
Yanks/Sox: Sox in 6
Rox/Sox: Sox in 6
by glennrwordman on Oct 2, 2007 12:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Here I go
Dbax beat Cubs in four
Phillies beat Rockies in five
ALDS:
Sox sweep angels
Yankees beat Indians in five
NLCS:
Phillies beat Dbax in seven
ALCS:
Sox over Yankees in six
WS:
Phillies over Red Sox in seven
by Valatan on Oct 2, 2007 12:40 PM EDT 0 recs
here you go
Diamondbacks over Cubs
Phillies over Rockies
Angels over Red Sox
Indians over Yankees
Phillies over Diamondbacks
Indians over Angels
Phillies over Indians
What will happen:
Cubs over Diamondbacks 3-1
Rockies over Phillies 3-2
Angels over Red Sox 3-1
Yankees over Indians 3-2
Cubs over Rockies 4-2
Angels over Yankees 4-1
Angels over Cubs 4-1
by Mr Redbird on Oct 2, 2007 12:41 PM EDT 0 recs
And yes
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Appropriate
And that would be quite fitting, seeing as how the Angels used to play at another Wrigley Field.
by flynn on
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PLAYOFFS???
Two words:
Crap.
Shoot.
The Sawks have troubles in their bullpen (who is the pod-person who's kidnapped the real Eric Gagne, and what have you done with him?)
Ditto the Tribe; Joe Borowski makes coffee nervous...
The Haloes lack boppers not named "Vladimir"...
The Yankees are counting on a freakin' rookie named "Jabba" outta their pen! (I don't care how he spells it... having a "Hutt" pitching for the "Evil Empire" is too good a line to pass up!)
The Phillies have "Hamels and Moyer and dat's all we got fo'yer..."
Wha' hoppens if somebody steals the Rockies' humidor? YIKES!!!
The D-Backs are awfully young; how will they play now that they're on "the radar"?
And the Cubs are STILL... The Cubs!
For further insightful analysis, see the Jedi Master (Baseball Division) quote below:
(Should be fun, though!)
by The Ol Goaler on Oct 2, 2007 12:42 PM EDT 0 recs
Rox dominating VEB Poll
But seriously, what is with America's obsession with the under dog?
Go EVIL EMPIRE!
by rocKStark5 on Oct 2, 2007 12:42 PM EDT 0 recs
The underdog thing
Yankee fans must've fallen asleep during history class.
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ahahahah
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